is this, tony, a generational divide, the paul ryans and chris christie and bobby jindal? is it really that real divide with the very conservative wing of the party? and if either case, how do they bridge that divide moving forward? >> i do think there is a need to talk to america differently. maybe it is generational. i feel like i span that generation where i find myself now older than a lot of new republicans even elected officials right now -- >> they have the 80s class in now. >> i don't know how i became old but i have. but it does need to be a shift to new republicans. there a lot of them out there. frankly i'd love to see the media talk to a lot of new republicans, the jeb hencerlings and paul ryan and bobby jindal and marco rubio, a lot of strong, younger voices in the party i would like to see more on. i turn on the tv and see newt gingrich back on tv. he hasn't been a republican leader in about 16 years. that's a long time. we need to shift and hear some of the newer voices in the party. >> i have to say just because you have some gray hair doesn't mean you can